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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Barrie Ellis <barrie.ellis@oneswitch.org.uk><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 October 2021 11:26<br>
<b>To:</b> Ian Hamilton <i_h@hotmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Andreas Lopez <andreas.lopez93@gmail.com>; games_access@lists.igda.org <games_access@lists.igda.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [games_access] Battlefield 2042 on PS5 not allowing 3rd party controllers</font>
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<div dir="ltr">I think it's important to be polite, but clear with Sony.
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<div>Maybe a video showing people having the problems, people backing it, things they've done well, and this one issue. I once had luck with Apple with a video: <a href="https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2F-zlgmgBmqlA&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28147a2c6d3543cdcf0808d98a46291b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637692856203134829%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=MqqZKHe91nimkl56GLF9LmMsJVerdSXfYw6znwgMVoQ%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="https://youtu.be/-zlgmgBmqlA" shash="zxu/f8JDrOnFgYnZJ63KgHqG/1VePUWck6vX/YqZ0UwcuhEhfCl41jB+UD7tGhMIXKFsDWhtvpP14Fj1Z8+vLsH6KKlxhfVQ5LS8PimMTKCcx8ebwc+6buvW6Nx5BtNZMkieNgmB5ddpPWwxR7kizwskivxZbtOy0Yxk3SatF3U=">https://youtu.be/-zlgmgBmqlA</a> alongside
others I'm sure asking for the same thing. Something that's easy to grasp and that may easily cross language barriers (thinking of Japan higher ups).</div>
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<div>I no longer have time to do that sort of thing. I have tried to forward these issues to Sony repeatedly. Since 1999! <a href="https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fswitchgaming.blogspot.com%2F2019%2F01%2F1999-letter-to-playstation.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28147a2c6d3543cdcf0808d98a46291b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637692856203139806%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=lT5Bd99vRJ8o1VqaNct761VeK8URsp5VFJn%2Fhdb1ySQ%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="https://switchgaming.blogspot.com/2019/01/1999-letter-to-playstation.html" shash="OE0IcPFh+kqK/iJopcE7JFpskbP/shqsBAEkBDslDTd1NqvG7GwBsWmyRVsy4B/nvA/JtKtnBvBaB8Xt2RJilqUYSHATFLbGUPSZiI9mgMj+MywWEzvava0nWzswi4BYEQISbSoBwgPyh6WdwAGQGNzVo3OC/bqGLw8e8AqVgAI=">https://switchgaming.blogspot.com/2019/01/1999-letter-to-playstation.html</a>.
Any other thoughts? :)</div>
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If that's indeed how it is (which is just an assumption) then I'm sure they have already been told, there are enough good people internally who care a great deal about accessibility<span id="x_gmail-m_-8525981514333377450ms-outlook-android-cursor"></span></div>
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<div id="x_gmail-m_-8525981514333377450divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Andreas Lopez <<a href="mailto:andreas.lopez93@gmail.com" target="_blank">andreas.lopez93@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 8, 2021 11:10:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ian Hamilton <<a href="mailto:i_h@hotmail.com" target="_blank">i_h@hotmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Barrie Ellis <<a href="mailto:barrie.ellis@oneswitch.org.uk" target="_blank">barrie.ellis@oneswitch.org.uk</a>>;
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [games_access] Battlefield 2042 on PS5 not allowing 3rd party controllers</font>
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<div dir="auto">Wow! That's even worse then. Is there any way we can champion to Sony Execs to communicate that there are people who need 3rd party controllers?
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<div dir="auto">Maybe even start a petition or start working with the bigger charities like able gamer to get more attention towards this?</div>
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<div dir="auto">I love my PS5 but I can't just watch such a huge anti-accessibility policy stand without trying to do something.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Any thoughts on how to address this with Sony?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Oct 8, 2021, 4:19 AM Ian Hamilton <<a href="mailto:i_h@hotmail.com" target="_blank">i_h@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Yeah AFAIK it's just down to the PS5, rather than rules laid down by individual games. If you want to play PS5 games Sony want you to use a PS5 controller. I've heard of one single third party PS5 controller available, it costs $250 and isn't very different.
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I don't think three is any technical reason why other controllers couldn't work, they work with adaptors and when using the streaming hacky workaround. It smells to me of Sony execs believing that the controller is some new paradigm of interaction that is the
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So wonderful that gamers won't just choose to use it themselves and instead must be forced to 🤷🏻♂️</div>
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<font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> games_access <<a href="mailto:games_access-bounces@lists.igda.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">games_access-bounces@lists.igda.org</a>> on behalf of Barrie Ellis <<a href="mailto:barrie.ellis@oneswitch.org.uk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">barrie.ellis@oneswitch.org.uk</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 8, 2021 8:58:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Andreas Lopez <<a href="mailto:andreas.lopez93@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">andreas.lopez93@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:games_access@lists.igda.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [games_access] Battlefield 2042 on PS5 not allowing 3rd party controllers</font>
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<div dir="ltr">It's very annoying and seemingly completely unnecessary. You can get around it in a very clunky way, using a Windows PC and the Playstation Remote Play app: <a href="https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fremoteplay.dl.playstation.net%2Fremoteplay%2Flang%2Fen%2Fps5_win.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28147a2c6d3543cdcf0808d98a46291b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637692856203144784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=eCWTnwx1DeJK8A6H%2Bqvf2NqtP9Su3UPVl72S1OUSq3U%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="https://remoteplay.dl.playstation.net/remoteplay/lang/en/ps5_win.html" shash="nBfWfkxEdlZm9VuISYS6yQQK/Q7j4BfcANdJXfQJGlGt20vgWwq2WGiP+di03V1J/o2shydm+jarPQNlWu96icqFhqhbzHybAM8yM7CIlHwiOwSzR/whzuhzN6+Rp5707/xMtS5rm4xjKCJpMZxfM6YcxKHcDA5ClfSJBTtn6eo=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://remoteplay.dl.playstation.net/remoteplay/lang/en/ps5_win.html</a>
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<div>Here's some others that don't work with a PS4 controller directly:</div>
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<div>Kena: Bridge of Spirits<br>
Lost in Random<br>
Deathloop<br>
Fornite<br>
Doom Eternal<br>
Back 4 Blood<br>
Final Fantasy VII Remake<br>
Call Of Duty: Vanguard<br>
Diablo II: Resurrected<br>
Ghost of Tsushima Directors Cut<br>
Wreckfest<br>
Ghost recon break point<br>
2k22<br>
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<div>If only Sony would allow for some nature of co-piloting a PS4 gamepad alongside a PS5 gamepad, I just can't see how they lose out. Perhaps it's not possible?</div>
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<div>Currently the PS5 gamepad walled garden is shutting a lot of physically disabled gamers out. Let's hope it gets better soon.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 00:28, Andreas Lopez <<a href="mailto:andreas.lopez93@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">andreas.lopez93@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">See original post here:
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<div dir="auto">This disabled gamer is reporting that on his PS5 3rd party controllers are not working. Including his PS4 controller. That sort of peripheral lock is non-sensical in my opinion. It's one thing for eSports, it's another for casual gamers especially
considering there is no warning or anything.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Does anyone have contacts with the battlefield team to maybe poke them about this issue?</div>
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<div dir="auto">Sincerely,</div>
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