[games_access] Battlefield 2042 on PS5 not allowing 3rd party controllers

Sat Oct 9 02:42:18 MDT 2021

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We can dream! They seem so close with the remote play apps allowing for a
slightly more relaxed approach to what controllers are acceptable. Why not
go a little further for all the benefits it would bring disabled users?

On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 17:46, Thomas Westin <thomas at westin.nu> wrote:

>
> Yes hardware should support open standards.
>
> EU should  do something similar to recentlty requiring USB-C for all
> smartphones, doing away with Apple Lightning. The argument I think was to
> minimise waste, save environment and make it easier for people.
>
> Similarly, game controllers should be possible to use regardless of
> platform,
>
> Kind regards,
> Thomas
>
> (Sent from my mobile)
>
> On 8 Oct 2021, at 13:09, Ian Hamilton <i_h at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Yeah, that Apple video was a big win 🙂
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Barrie Ellis <barrie.ellis at oneswitch.org.uk>
> *Sent:* 08 October 2021 11:26
> *To:* Ian Hamilton <i_h at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* Andreas Lopez <andreas.lopez93 at gmail.com>;
> games_access at lists.igda.org <games_access at lists.igda.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [games_access] Battlefield 2042 on PS5 not allowing 3rd
> party controllers
>
> I think it's important to be polite, but clear with Sony.
>
> Maybe a video showing people having the problems, people backing it,
> things they've done well, and this one issue. I once had luck with Apple
> with a video: https://youtu.be/-zlgmgBmqlA
> <https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2F-zlgmgBmqlA&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28147a2c6d3543cdcf0808d98a46291b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637692856203134829%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=MqqZKHe91nimkl56GLF9LmMsJVerdSXfYw6znwgMVoQ%3D&reserved=0> alongside
> others I'm sure asking for the same thing. Something that's easy to grasp
> and that may easily cross language barriers (thinking of Japan higher ups).
>
> I no longer have time to do that sort of thing. I have tried to forward
> these issues to Sony repeatedly. Since 1999!
> https://switchgaming.blogspot.com/2019/01/1999-letter-to-playstation.html
> <https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fswitchgaming.blogspot.com%2F2019%2F01%2F1999-letter-to-playstation.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28147a2c6d3543cdcf0808d98a46291b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637692856203139806%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=lT5Bd99vRJ8o1VqaNct761VeK8URsp5VFJn%2Fhdb1ySQ%3D&reserved=0>.
> Any other thoughts?  :)
>
> Barrie
>
> On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 11:25, Ian Hamilton <i_h at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> If that's indeed how it is (which is just an assumption) then I'm sure
> they have already been told, there are enough good people internally who
> care a great deal about accessibility
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Andreas Lopez <andreas.lopez93 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 8, 2021 11:10:20 AM
> *To:* Ian Hamilton <i_h at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* Barrie Ellis <barrie.ellis at oneswitch.org.uk>;
> games_access at lists.igda.org <games_access at lists.igda.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [games_access] Battlefield 2042 on PS5 not allowing 3rd
> party controllers
>
> Wow! That's even worse then. Is there any way we can champion to Sony
> Execs to communicate that there are people who need 3rd party controllers?
>
> Maybe even start a petition or start working with the bigger charities
> like able gamer to get more attention towards this?
>
> I love my PS5 but I can't just watch such a huge anti-accessibility policy
> stand without trying to do something.
>
> Any thoughts on how to address this with Sony?
>
> On Fri, Oct 8, 2021, 4:19 AM Ian Hamilton <i_h at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah AFAIK it's just down to the PS5, rather than rules laid down by
> individual games. If you want to play PS5 games Sony want you to use a PS5
> controller. I've heard of one single third party PS5 controller available,
> it costs $250 and isn't very different.
>
> I don't think three is any technical reason why other controllers couldn't
> work, they work with adaptors and when using the streaming hacky
> workaround. It smells to me of Sony execs believing that the controller is
> some new paradigm of interaction that is the key differentiator of their
> product.
>
> So wonderful that gamers won't just choose to use it themselves and
> instead must be forced to 🤷🏻‍♂️
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* games_access <games_access-bounces at lists.igda.org> on behalf of
> Barrie Ellis <barrie.ellis at oneswitch.org.uk>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 8, 2021 8:58:21 AM
> *To:* Andreas Lopez <andreas.lopez93 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* games_access at lists.igda.org <games_access at lists.igda.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [games_access] Battlefield 2042 on PS5 not allowing 3rd
> party controllers
>
> It's very annoying and seemingly completely unnecessary. You can get
> around it in a very clunky way, using a Windows PC and the Playstation
> Remote Play app:
> https://remoteplay.dl.playstation.net/remoteplay/lang/en/ps5_win.html
> <https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fremoteplay.dl.playstation.net%2Fremoteplay%2Flang%2Fen%2Fps5_win.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28147a2c6d3543cdcf0808d98a46291b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637692856203144784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=eCWTnwx1DeJK8A6H%2Bqvf2NqtP9Su3UPVl72S1OUSq3U%3D&reserved=0>
>
> Here's some others that don't work with a PS4 controller directly:
>
> Kena: Bridge of Spirits
> Lost in Random
> Deathloop
> Fornite
> Doom Eternal
> Back 4 Blood
> Final Fantasy VII Remake
> Call Of Duty: Vanguard
> Diablo II: Resurrected
> Ghost of Tsushima Directors Cut
> Wreckfest
> Ghost recon break point
> 2k22
>
> If only Sony would allow for some nature of co-piloting a PS4 gamepad
> alongside a PS5 gamepad, I just can't see how they lose out. Perhaps it's
> not possible?
>
> Currently the PS5 gamepad walled garden is shutting a lot of physically
> disabled gamers out. Let's hope it gets better soon.
>
> Barrie
> OneSwitch
>
>
>
> On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 00:28, Andreas Lopez <andreas.lopez93 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> See original post here:
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/playstation/comments/q36k4h/playstation_5_versions_of_games_can_only_be/
> <https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fplaystation%2Fcomments%2Fq36k4h%2Fplaystation_5_versions_of_games_can_only_be%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28147a2c6d3543cdcf0808d98a46291b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637692856203149761%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=RnRNNw5rDiAQrd2CNsitwdexjX0MWLnsP9rPtXipCkU%3D&reserved=0>
>
> This disabled gamer is reporting that on his PS5 3rd party controllers are
> not working. Including his PS4 controller. That sort of peripheral lock is
> non-sensical in my opinion. It's one thing for eSports, it's another for
> casual gamers especially considering there is no warning or anything.
>
> Does anyone have contacts with the battlefield team to maybe poke them
> about this issue?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Andreas Lopez
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